Hunting ban 'massive waste of police time' - Alliance
The ban on fox hunting has been labelled a “massive waste” of police time after it was claimed criminal convictions have been “consistently low”.
The Countryside Alliance says Devon and Cornwall Police have not taken action against anyone involved with a registered hunt under the Hunting Act.
-

It was among 12 police forces in “hunt areas” not to have issued a caution, proceeded against, fined or convicted anyone since the ban came into force in 2005, the group contends.
Alice Barnard, the Countryside Alliance’s chief executive, said: “With the opening meets of the hunting season just around the corner, these statistics are a damning indictment of the expensive and failed Hunting Act.”
But the League Against Cruel Sports believes hunts are breaking the law, and that proponents of the sport have an “intimidating grip on the countryside”.
The pressure group’s report, based chiefly on Ministry of Justice data, comes as David Cameron insists Parliament will vote on repealing the Act.
The Coalition Agreement, hammered out by the Tories and Liberal Democrats, says the Government will “bring forward a motion on a free vote enabling the House of Commons to express its view on the repeal of the Hunting Act”.
Since then, there have been claims a group of 23 anti-hunting Tory MPs would vote to keep the Act.
It would be enough to win a Commons vote if allied to Labour and Lib Dems, meaning the pledge is “dead and buried”, insiders have said.
But the Prime Minister told the Western Morning News last week: “There’s no change in the position, and the commitment is the commitment, and we don’t resile from that.
“I’m sure at some stage the vote will be held. I don’t have a timing for that.”
South West Devon Conservative MP Gary Streeter said he would vote for a repeal.
He said: “I think the hunts in Devon and Cornwall have done a fantastic job of staying within the law. The sad reality is that more foxes are dying now than ever before.
“They are being shot from long range because the vermin control that the hunts offered are no longer in place.”
The Countryside Alliance claims 97 per cent of Hunting Act convictions relate to poaching or other casual hunting activities, including hunting rats. It goes on that last year six police forces cautioned 11 individuals under the Hunting Act, but not one was for an individual associated with a registered hunt.
The Alliance adds that most convictions have been secured in areas such as Merseyside and Humberside, which are not hunted over by registered packs.
By contrast, traditional hunting areas – such as Devon and Cornwall – have seen no convictions whatsoever, it says.
Last year, Tony Blair admitted in his memoirs the introduction of the ban was what he “most regrets” during his time in power, rather than war with Iraq.
Opponents have labelled the Act one of the “most illiberal, ineffective and wasteful laws of modern times”.
The Countryside Alliance’s Ms Barnard said: “As a piece of legislation it is has been condemned widely – including by those who created it.
“Yet law-abiding hunts are still forced to go about their daily lives under the threat of harassment and intimidation from saboteurs who then waste police time pursuing cases that never see the light of day.
“The evidence is now overwhelming – the Hunting Act must be repealed.”
Philip Davies, a former chief inspector, claimed the Hunting Act is a “police officer’s nightmare”.
He said: “It is hugely time-consuming, a massive distraction and produces very poor results.”
But the LACS pointed to convictions against members of registered hunts. One example is two hunt employees convicted of breaking the Hunting Act who had their appeal thrown out at Leicester Crown Court this month.
Joe Duckworth, the animal welfare group’s chief executive, said the report sent mixed messages, and that “the majority of rural people find hunting abhorrent”.
He said: “On the one hand you have the Countryside Alliance saying that hunts aren't breaking the law, and on the other they say that the law’s an ass because no hunting people were convicted last season.
“Which is it? Are they breaking the law or aren't they?”
WMN opinion: This dog's breakfast of a law is wasting police time
Government 'committed to vote on hunting ban'
Illegal poison kills another bird of prey
Concerns over foxes seen in trees
Cameron's plan for vote on hunt ban is 'dead and buried'
Commercial game shoots struggle to make money as costs rise








67 Comments
View all
by Yesboy1
Saturday, October 29 2011, 7:22PM
“i've a friend who argues that illicit drug use is part of his culture
same arguments that it is a waste of police time could be stated.
live and let live. lets all do what we want
badger baiting here i come (promise not to get in the way of your horses and dogs ripping up the foxes)”
by The Gandy Street Kitchen
Saturday, October 29 2011, 11:27AM
“Blair the warmonger”
by dholmes2010
Friday, October 28 2011, 5:18PM
“@paul55,
what are you going on about. Did you actually read my post or are you just another one of those obnoxious people who think that they know best. I stated quite clearly I do not agree with fox hunting, but I also don't agree with the complete annihilation of someone's culture because you are too bigoted to sit down and work a compromise.”
by 2ladybugs
Friday, October 28 2011, 4:58PM
“@SKoM
Shame!! to the first person.
Almost certainly to the second person.(providing there were no more seagulls there)
Ha!Ha!”
by SKoM_
Friday, October 28 2011, 4:49PM
“Hi 2ladybugs
I suspect not. He has claimed (on numerous occasions in the past) to have confessed his crimes to the police and they don't seem to care so I doubt that they will take action on a comment here.
After all, if they did poor old Gribble would probably kicking his heels at her maj's pleasure as we speak (though he'll probably claim that he'd enjoy the R&R)”
by 2ladybugs
Friday, October 28 2011, 2:31PM
“@SKoM
On a point of law can Giles Bradshaw be prosecuted by his written and broadcast admission to an offence in this newspaper?”
by SKoM_
Friday, October 28 2011, 2:23PM
“Giles is a serial offender, both with regard to the law and bragging about it on here.
The police are generally unwilling to prosecute any offenders on the basis of video evidence unless they are caught by cctv or traffic cameras. This is a shame because, not only could we lock up a number of sadists, we could make our roads safer and emptier by getting a significant number of motorists banned for such as mobile 'phone use”
by Paul55
Friday, October 28 2011, 1:43PM
“@dholmes2010: "using a sledgehammer to crack a nut" is exactly what the hunters themselves do. Instead of humanely dispatching with a fox which would take a fraction of a second with a well-aimed close shot, these sadistic animal abusers spend hours chasing them around, causing a slow, agonising and terrifying death...sounds rather like a certain former world leader last week.
I notice Giles Bradshaw has a picture of a cute little cat and dog as his user icon. That's a bit ironic isn't it, seeing as you take pleasure from torturing and maiming animals?”
by 2ladybugs
Friday, October 28 2011, 1:14PM
“@dholmes
Yep agree with you completely.
If they want to ride with hounds they can still do drag hunting.
The law needs a complete overhaul so everybody knows what's right and what's wrong. Although judging by some of the pigheadedness of some of the hunters it won't make the slightest difference. They are probably the same type that think that if slavery was still happening in this country that it would be o.k.
Back to the dark ages again.
@GilesBradshaw
Nice to see such a law abiding citizen coming in here.
I hope it doesn't come back to bite you on your - what shall we call it - posterior.
A relation of a friend of mind who is a Hunt Master thought and acted the same way as you. He fortunately got caught and his good name has now been besmirched.
Good luck!”
by dholmes2010
Friday, October 28 2011, 12:45PM
“@2ladybugs,
Fully agree with you there, and that's at all levels of society not just the rich and influential. I suppose what I'm getting at is if society's concensus is that we don't want foxes killed with hounds (and that is a consensus I share) then let's introduce a law that says 'don't kill foxes with hounds'. The 2004 act simply applies a number of arbitrary rules which no one fully understands and also prevent people commiting acts which most people do not see as cruel (e.g. tracking) that was put through parliament to appease a majority with little thought for the minority. That minority was portrayed as rich, upperclass people which although represented do not make up the whole country community. If you compare this with the acceptance of halal butchery you can understand why some think this is a vendetta against their way of life.
Please - ban fox hunting - not everything that goes along with it.”