'MPs should profit from second homes'
A WESTCOUNTRY MP has told an official inquiry into the Parliamentary expenses scandal that politicians should be able to profit from their taxpayer-funded second homes.
North Devon Lib-Dem MP Nick Harvey made the case in a six-page letter to the Committee on Standards in Public Life which has received more than 700 submissions.
Mr Harvey, who claimed up to £1,250 a month mortgage interest for his house in London, argued: "If making a capital gain is seen by some as a 'crime', then it is a 'victimless crime' because it does not add in any way to the taxpayer's burden: it is simply a function of market movement.
"The MP has borne all the risk, which may prove painful for some in the current market, and maintained the property in marketable condition.
"The taxpayer could not be expected to bear any capital loss. The fair and equitable sharing of any capital gain is through the capital gain tax system."
As the WMN revealed earlier this month, Mr Harvey also suggested that MPs outside London be paid a taxable and non-pensionable lump of £30,000, linked to inflation – based on the average cost of a hotel stay near Westminster and the number of nights MPs need to be in London.
It would mean a massive cut in the allowances for MPs, leaving them with £17,000 after tax.
But, the Liberal Democrat frontbencher, went on: "In return for this huge reduction, and the MPs renouncing their tax privilege and moving onto the same basis as everyone else, the taxpayer would relinquish the recently acquired right to probe into MPs' domestic expenditure."
Mr Harvey's suggestion on capital gains, along with arguments made by other MPs, has led to claims that they are portraying themselves as victims of the expenses furore.
St Ives Lib-Dem MP Andrew George told the committee he had been hounded by the media after accusations his daughter used his London flat more than he did.
"I bought nearly a third of my own property in London outright with my own resources and have called upon the use of the accommodation allowance to cover the remaining two-thirds through the claiming of mortgage interest relief," he said.
"I have also supplied much of the furniture, fridge, cooker, etc, for the property without any call on Parliamentary allowances. As, like most MPs, I work about an 80-hour week, I do not see much of my family, even when I am at my family home in the constituency in West Cornwall.
"I do not think that the public expect an MP to live in solitary confinement when they are away from their main home. For that reason, I believe that it is reasonable to allow a Member of Parliament to have members of his/her family with them.
"As a result of what I obviously consider to be unfair reporting and a misrepresentation of the facts, my family have been intimidated by the media, snooped upon and my daughter stalked."
Other MPs from the region to have submitted evidence to the committee inquiry including Alison Seabeck, Labour MP for Plymouth Devonport.
"I have put much more than the expenses covered into my Plymouth home," she said. "I claimed as advised by the fees office for the larger objects and so there are a number of costs which are not included which were incurred including things like the cost of removals and most of the basic furniture."
All the responses to the Committee on Standards in Public Life, which is expected to recommend a major shakeup of the system, have been published on its website: www.public-standards.gov.uk/ourwork/ mps_expenses_evidence.html










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by Reg, Portugal
Tuesday, September 01 2009, 11:02AM
“I have always believed that Government should have a number of flats/properties on their Asset Register for the purpose of commuting MPs. Thus, users should pay a rent whilst in term of office or residence for said property. Would get rid of the need for the 2nd Home Syndrome.”
by a g rawlings, truro
Monday, August 31 2009, 6:40PM
“Well Taurus, I must agree with you, a block of flats would be more than adequate for them to sleep in at nights. With regard to a statement made by CH about pay peanuts and get monkeys, I trust they are not being nasty to people who pick cabbages and sweep roads that achieve more than these hopeless MP's.”
by Taurus, Redruth
Monday, August 31 2009, 6:01PM
“I agree wholeheartedly with PollAxeHim, Devon. They should have a block of flats, in London, just like the council tenants have, solely for MPs for which they pay a nominal fee in rent. Who do they think they are? The country wouldn't go bust if they didn't exist. They are only puppets to Brussell now anyway.”
by Ian, South Brent
Monday, August 31 2009, 5:59PM
“If these loathsome morons treated us with equal respect, perhaps we would allow them to keep a few shillings, but as they legally fleece everyone of us through their twisted tax/benefits systems -
Hand it back you greedy sod ! ! !”
by jerker ( QX alandian ), FIMLAND
Monday, August 31 2009, 5:51PM
“its an absolute outrage that politicians take advantage of the taxpayers's hard earnt inkom to pay for the luxury of second homes when others must rough iy out on the streets !”
by Charles Henry 1945-(diuturnity), Somersetshire
Monday, August 31 2009, 5:36PM
“:| We still have to pay someone who is capable to do the job, and if we pay 'peanuts' we will just get 'monkeys'.”
by they syill don't get it, Exmouth
Monday, August 31 2009, 5:15PM
“If MP's don't like their remuneration package then they should not stand but get a real job instead.
Nobody should vote for any prospective MP who fails to give an assurance that they will, for the life of the forthcoming parliament, vote against any increases in their salary or benefits.”
by alex, plymouth Devon
Monday, August 31 2009, 2:25PM
“Harvey is yet another MP, who like Steen, seems to believe he can snought at the tax payer trough forever and make a handsome profit.”
by Joe Paul Naudi, Torquay Devon
Monday, August 31 2009, 11:34AM
“In my opinion all MPs who have taken taxpayers money for their own expenses9like paying for their mortgage, buying things for the home, etc) should be prosecuted
and if charged should be sent to prison t serve their sentence, otherwise they should refund all the money that they have taken.
MPS cannot be trusted anymore.”
by Dave Grylls, KINGSTEIGNTON
Monday, August 31 2009, 9:53AM
“Nick Harvey also has a reputation for speaking with forked tongue as many of us can recall.”