Police commissioner says minimum pricing for alcohol could make Plymouth safer

“Via repeating what he said last time the man in position appears to be rather clutching at straws and one may consider he has already given up and turned to the barrow, erm, I mean barrel, himself. Corruption is the apple core rotten, in correct does a man merely draw a wagered bet. Now he's saying he's in opposition to the Government line.”

“those who cause the problems, make them pay, its simple,raise the price and it will still be the same people, fine them ,make them pay for damage, and clean up thier mess, its simple, pubs shouldnot serve drunks anyway thats the law so punish those pubs that break the law, its not difficult is it!!”

“This man is a lame duck and has NO electoral mandate to say anything.”

“A more robust response from the police would not go amiss.

round up the drunks and put them in the cells for the night and give them a fixed community hours sentence dressed in visible attire to pick up litter etc.

As I posted previously, one state in the US is looking at passing a law for drunk drivers to be banned for life from purchasing alcohol and to be identified permanently.

Maybe this should be extended to other drunks in public places!

Why not go back to restrictions on the sale of alcohol by limiting who when and where it can be sold. for example, ban supermarkets from selling it and go back to off-licences amd limit the hours of sale in all establishments.”

“Mr Hogg, can you please ensure that Oliver Colaville MP has the lowdown on what really happened at Devonport Police Station when he is here online tomorrow.

You're supposed to be answerable to local people and the police procuring a police station that has an entrance onto a bus stop is a local issue.

It looks like the police failed to notice the bus stop or thought that they could get their own way after it had been built.

A response unit has now been deployed there? That eventuality couldn't be foreseen?

Really? It's like going to Castle Motors and buying a two seater covertible when your wife is having trouble getting the seatbelt around her baby bump, a bit of a clue that it may be useful to buy a car with more doors and somewhere to put the baby seat.

Many people were involved in that police station so the idea that it was procured and built for a single purpose and the need to modify that purpose and that that somehow couldn't be foreseen doesn't really wash.

If the police could see that their former Marlborough Street premises were cramped and unsuitable then surely they could see that having vehicular access across a bus stop could cause a bit of a problem?

Something isn't making sense.”

“Yeh mate, and high fuel cost stops us all from driving and polluting the earth,
Ill help you out so please listen,
High prices wont stop drinking, culture will slow down drinking and crime. If people had a better outlook on life such as jobs, personal lives built on work and family, and then they would have the mind-set to protect there careers and home life etc by not drinking to much and causing problems.
1.GET THE UK JOB MARKET WORKING,
2, GET PEOPLE INTO THE JOBS, AND LET PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM.
I know it wont stop all the issues but it will stop over 50%
Also we voted you in to sort the police out not to worry about government taxes.”

“Some states in the US have a 21 year old age limit for drink?

Didn't Chelsea Clinton get done for under age drinking?

It's quite a novelty getting asked for ID entering US pubs when you're 30. :)

Raising the age for booze would reduce liver disease in the young.

We need to try to alter our attitude to drink and make it seem as dangerous as smoking?

Did ramping up the price of cigarettes lead to the reduction of smoking. About 15 years an American colleague that was a smoker said that smokers were getting treated like lepers there.

Just make alcohol stink as much as burning tobacco?”

“The worse thing that happened for a long time was the combination of n24 hour drinking and allowing the supermarkets to sell booze often below cost price. There has been a huge increase in liver disease among the young, which was almost unheard of years ago, and alcohol fuelled violence has increased. The price per unit would not make much difference to pub prices but it would stop the supermarkets in their tracks and strong cider, the tipple of choice of many, would go up quite a lot. Anything which can change the upward spiral of liver disease and violence on our streets has got to be a good thing.”

“Rubbish. You could try actually issing on the spot fines to the trouble makers, rather than penalising all of us.

You could call it policing. :p”

“Would there be less violence or less injuries if glass be it glasses or bottles were banned or reduced in pubs?

How much of bottles in bars is down to brands, just like is supposedly is with smoking and altering tobacco displays in shops and supermarkets? Moves are mooted for plain cigarette wrappers.

How much of bottles in bars is due to being seen with the correct brand of beer, spirits or alcopops, it's a pose like people putting their car keys and mobile phones down on tables?

I'm cool because I have the cool drink?

I was so smashed on Jagermeister?

It would be less bottles and broken glass on our streets if glass bottles in bars were banned?

We buy cars because of their brand and image and what they supposedly say about us just as we do for fags, booze and mobile phones?”