Time incinerator neighbours heard

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Thursday, March 07, 2013
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WELL the live online incinerator debate on February 28 just goes to prove that this issue will not go away.

Perhaps Paul Carey of MVV would like to meet the residents directly and answer the questions that were side-tracked or there wasn't time to reply to.

Perhaps also a glossy leaflet to state that the residents of Barne Barton are not getting free or subsidised electricity as they have been made to believe in the process running up to planning permission.

Again the district heating gets mentioned but this would go to Devonport not Barne Barton. This was a question that clearly shows how misleading information has been given to the residents.

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Also from the debate the 106 money statement on how this money would be spend (pittance when you look at MVV and Babcock's profits a year) again stated anyone can apply to the fund. I thought this 106 money was suppose to be directly aimed at the residents who will have to live with a huge building overshadowing their homes.

Yet again residents seem to be promised things, yet they are taken away just like that! It's time these residents were treated and respected better especially those whose homes are 60 metres away from this huge building when its built and the 450 homes in a danger zone.

S CLARK

St Budeaux

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    by LHPlymouth

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 5:56PM

    “Now here's a thing....

    MVV state: Savings for council tax payers of more than £675 million over the 25-year life of the contract – when compared with the costs of continuing to landfill the waste

    675 million divided by 25 = 27 million per year

    27 million divided by 3 (SWDWP councils and assuming divided equally) = 9 million per year per council

    Bet you all can't wait for that massive drop in your council tax...or maybe those who have had no choice but to be living on top of this incinerator could have been given an opportunity to move away with compensation from the saving.
    I notice this does not have the usual words so it MUST be a FACT!!!!
    Make sure your children know this so that in 25 years they can ask for some of the 9 million to get specialist health care for their respiratory problems from the diesel fumes etc and the 'safe' emissions from a 90 metre high chimney stack that has to be that high to disperse the 'safe' emissions..... (if safe why do they need to be dispersed?????.. a question that MVV will never answer).

    BTW - did you all see on the local news that there is less waste to go to landfill (which we already know as other countries are importing waste to feed their incinerators)....therefore less waste to feed this incinerator...work that one out for yourselves...still think we need it when landfill will still be needed anyway to put the processed IBA left over - apparently most of the 57,000 tonnes of bottom ash will be used in local construction (where?) every year but any surplus will be landfilled.

    Any point recycling when it will end up being diverted to the incinerator - think that won't happen? Do some research, its already happened in the UK with other incinerators.”

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    by LHPlymouth

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 5:26PM

    “This was not approved based on facts - it was approved with information redacted and unavailable to those who were in the position to vote on the planning application. How much did any of those councillors on the planning committee actually read and understand?

    It is about time the truth came out and not in years to come when it will be too late.

    This has been based on assumptions, predictions, potentially, could etc but there is litlle that actually states 'this WILL'. No guarantees at all.

    We who travel on the St Budeaux By-pass and A38 know already what the traffic is like never mind when waste laden juggernauts are added in. What do MVV/PCC have in place for when the A38 is closed due to accidents and traffic is backed up on residential roads?
    They bribe the little children at the local primary school but don't advertise the fact that these lorries will be chucking out poison for their little lungs just feet away from their classrooms and play ground.
    There have been no improvements to the Camels Head junction - only on the Dockyard side of the junction for the benefit of the incinerator traffic. Wait until all the gas oil is transported into the incineraotr....oh yes don't you know what will be on the local roads...gas oil is the best accelerant for the furnace to burn.

    One of the benefits MVV boasts is "Potentially providing heat to local businesses and homes as part of a district heating scheme". The key is the word "Potentially". In other leaflets they say "Could potentially supply energy to over 37,000 homes"
    Well I "could" win the lottery but I have to get the right numbers first....

    As I understand it the University is Plymouth's largest employer plus all the other businesses who benefit from it not the declining Naval Base. All this to save Babcock 20% on their energy bill and there is no guarantee that there will be surplus to feed to the National Grid and how does that benefit the citizens of Plymouth?

    PCC you are fools.....you have fallen for all the spin and not checked figures. They just don't add up....and anyone living within the shadow of this you will NOT BENEFIT from this incinerator.

    The only people who will benefit are MVV who will not only make a MASSIVE profit to send back to Germany but also will use this as a way to create misery in other communities in the UK.

    ...a large number of the workers are local....How many is a 'large number'?
    Wow, two local people have been employed in the canteen....they will be temporary jobs as the portacabins are only temporary whilst construction is under way.

    S Clark is right to expect the truth but we will never get straight answers from a company who are only in it for the MONEY and there is nothing that can mitigate this for the people who live in St Budeaux, Barne Barton, Weston Mill, Keyham, Camels Head and beyond.

    This is not being built on stilts but lies and misinformation, a play on words and the saddest thing for humanity is that all these government bodies have acted like sheep and backed them. No independant bodies for the people who will and are being affected by this. Even the North Yard Trust in my opinion is questionable - people on the trust who are already involved in other community groups - how do we know the money will be distributed fairly especially when the focus is on Barne Barton. People on other sides to this site are affected too.
    Local councillor suggested asking the North Yard Community Trust for secondary double glazing (am I never to have my windows open?)but if they ever do bother to answer they will say the money is for the community.....well 2 lap tops in Barne Barton Community Centre does nowt for me!

    In fact the £150,000 is an insult and a disgusting bribe and they can stick their pathetic bribe up their chimney stack!!”

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    by RoundHead0

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 1:02PM

    “Well said S Clark.

    Interesting to read this in the news today (real news from a proper news provider i.e. not the Herald) - UK IN COURT ON AIR POLLUTION LEVELS - http://tinyurl.com/bo8og7d

    DEFRA are one of the major organisations behind a national policy of building incinerators (and very much behind the Plymouth one along with MoD and SWDWP) demonstrating to all how much they (don't)care for our health and wellbeing, and how trustworthy their hollow meaningless words really are.”

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