Fox Watch scheme 'not needed'
AN INTERNATIONAL animal welfare group has called on
residents through a Neighbourhood Watch-style advertising
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Fox cub
campaign to look out for illegal fox cub hunting.
The International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) placed
adverts in a selection of South West publications calling on
members of the public to look out for suspicious activity.
But the Countryside Alliance has dismissed the call, saying
most members of public would not know the difference between an
illegal hunt and one that was lawful.
Hunting with dogs was banned by the Hunting Act 2004, but
IFAW claims there are still cases of "suspicious activity"
being carried out.
The group has made a particular call for the public to look
out for cub hunting which, according to the fund, is used to
train young dogs.
The advert in yesterday's newspapers featured a photograph
of a young fox.
It read: "He's only a few months old, but already they could
be baying for his blood.
IFAW hunt monitor Kevin Hill said: "Cub hunting is a
particularly barbaric activity. Dogs would not naturally hunt
foxes, they have to be trained from a young age by taking them
to a fox habitat and letting them loose with older, more
experienced dogs.
"Hunters surround the woods and block any escape routes for
the fleeing foxes. Many people will be shocked to learn about
this aspect of hunting and we encourage locals to be the eyes
and ears of the countryside to help stop this cruelty."
The adverts were placed in newspapers through Somerset,
Dorset, Wiltshire, Bristol and Gloucestershire, calling on
people to contact the police with information on anything that
could be deemed as suspicious activity.
Avon and Somerset Police refused to comment on the issue,
saying it did not want to be drawn into the debate.
However, the Countryside Alliance's Alison Hawes said: "They
[IFAW] use this time of year to raise their profile. But the
simple fact is there is no need for this.
"There have been very few hunts convicted of illegal
activity since the ban came into force.
"IFAW are calling on members of the public to look out for
signs of illegal hunting.
"But I suspect that most ordinary members of the public
would struggle to tell the difference between one that was
breaking the law and one that was not."
She said that she did not fear the adverts would cause any
form of reprisals from members of the public – a view mirrored
by Richard Standing, the master of the Mendip Farmers'
Hunt.
He said: "I think the public are tired of this. IFAW want to
bring back a debate on an Act which has failed in getting rid
of us.
"Everyone in the hunts has worked very hard to ensure that
they act within the law."
IFAW and the League Against Cruel Sports have written to all
police forces in England and Wales asking them to look out for
cub hunting from August until November, and to take action
where appropriate.
Josey Sharrad, IFAW campaigns manager, said: "We would like
to think that the hunts are all acting within the law. But our
monitors have seen suspicious activities.
"This is nothing to do with raising our profile. Nor do we
want people to approach a hunt, we simply want them to report
any suspicious activity to the police."








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by Jane, Devon
Saturday, September 06 2008, 3:49PM
“Oh please, have any of you who have commented on here actually seen a Fox Hunt? Blood lust, vile people in Red coats, arrogant rich toffs...same old cliches.And its not Red coats it's Hunting Pink and they aren't dogs they are Hounds. Get your terminology right!”
by James, Cornwall
Saturday, August 30 2008, 11:28PM
“Just what is the matter with the pro hunting group?. Dont they realise that the Hunting Bill was passed in the UK Parliament in 2004 after many years of wrangling. This Bill was passed by a massive majority after the normal democratic process and is here to stay.
I fully agree with the chief of the RSPCA who said of the Bill at that time " a watershed for a more civilised society".”
by Steve McCracken, Exmoor
Saturday, August 30 2008, 6:15AM
“I Think Kevin Hill and his monitors should take up monitoring paedophiles ,muggers and people mugging old ladies,maybe they could monitor our coastline,and monitor drug gangs coming into the country,could someone describe to me what a monitor is.Is it the same as a train spotter,or a bird watcher.Or is it someone who is funded by other people to sit on his backside!”
by jennifer blue, Bath
Friday, August 29 2008, 3:53PM
“a view mirrored by Richard Standing, the master of the Mendip Farmers' Hunt.
He said: "I think the public are tired of this. IFAW want to bring back a debate on an Act which has failed in getting rid of us.......
I'd say the public are rather tired of this sort of arrogant statement and people like Standing. It comes back to the fact hat around 80% of the public when asked wanted an end to this vile so called sport, which was why it was legislated against. Badly and weakly yes and since these smug people consider themselves above the law then yes it is a very good idea for people to watch out for and report any 'suspicions' to the police. Whethter it would be acted upon is quite another matter.”
by Oliver, Cornwall
Friday, August 29 2008, 8:55AM
“The simple fact is that without the support of hard-working farmers, hunting could not exist as hunts need fallen stock to feed hounds, and hunts need permission and cooperation from farmers to hunt on their land. If we have a problem with foxes taking free-range birds or lambs then we just give them a call and they sort the problem out, legally.
If there was no support or need for hunting then it wouldn't exist as the farmers would just say "get off my land". Hunting across our farm can cause us problems with horses poaching up the grass a bit, and us having to make sure our livestock are where they cannot be spooked by horses, we even had a gate broken once but it was promptly replaced with a lovely new one! For us the Pros of allowing the hunt on our farm far outweigh the Cons.
If you dont like hunting then your should give up eating meat, because 95% of the meat you buy comes from farmers who support hunting, and hunting is just another part of the management process that has produced that beef, lamb, chicken, pork, etc. Even more so if you like free-range or organics produce, as it is more often produced by "sporting" estates / farmers.”
by giles, rose ash
Friday, August 29 2008, 8:29AM
“oops - please read
'lamping than hunting' below”
by giles bradshaw, rose ash
Friday, August 29 2008, 8:27AM
“Another very important point about hunting is that it is seasonal and foxes are allowed to breed in the spring and summer.
The means that LACS and the government favour which is lamping is carried out right through the summer months.
Far more foxes are killed by lamping than shooting and the cubs that belong to a lamped vixen die a long, slow and very painful death.
Why do the antis prefer this means which kills more and causes more suffering? They say it is 'more efficient'.
The truth is the law is not motivated by concern for animal welfare it is motivated by ignorant spiteful prejudice on the part of the incompetent MPs who passed it.”
by giles bradshaw, rose ash
Friday, August 29 2008, 8:20AM
“Kevin Hill states "Dogs would not naturally hunt foxes". I'm not sure that is true. Whenever my dogs come across a fox they chase it and I've never trained them too. It's the same with rabbits, hares, rats and deer.”
by Dominic Webber, Temple, London
Thursday, August 28 2008, 8:51PM
“For many years IFAW and other anti-hunting organisations have been trying to upset the general public at this time of year with emotive talk about killing young foxes. The general public now accepts that fox management will continue whether or not the Hunting Act is repealed. The Government's independent report on hunting (Burns Report 2000) stated the following about managing foxes in Autumn: "Lamping (with a rifle) is most effective in autumn when fox densities are high, cover is reduced and the inexperience of young foxes makes them a relatively easy target."
Properly conducted hunting with hounds selected and killed the weakest specimens in autumn and helped in a small way (relative to the total cull) to disperse and monitor the population when it was at its highest density. Hunts also left foxes alone during the breeding season. Autumn hunting with dogs was the most humane and natural management tool available.
It is likely that more cubs have been orphaned in their early months and have starved to death underground, because it is no longer legal to use a terrier to locate them, dig down and humanely put them down. The only exemption under the Hunting Act for using a dog to locate a fox underground is to protect game birds.
The Hunting Act is bad for animal welfare for these and so many other reasons. Luckily, politicians and the public are beginning to understand all this and this bad law will eventually be repealed.
Going out with friends and hounds in autumn is an enjoyable activity participated in, on the most part, by normal, civilised, and decent people. Banging on about the activity being a "blood sport" as opponents have done for years is about as meaningful as calling meat a "blood food."
It remains perfectly legal, of course, for Hunts to hunt within other exemptions under the Act at this time of year and the public will no doubt be wary about the dangers of wasting police time by making unnecessary phone calls.”
by Holly Baker, England
Thursday, August 28 2008, 7:33PM
“"But I suspect that most ordinary members of the public would struggle to tell the difference between one that was breaking the law and one that was not."
What a strange statement......is she speaking in the future tense, suggesting illegal hunting STILL occurs?”